Ten Point Crossbow Vapor RS470; CB20004-6399; Up To 470 FPS; 191 FP/Kinetic Energy; 6.25 Inches Axle To Axle; Package Includes: Evo-X Marksman Scope, STAG Hard Case, 6 Evo-X Centerpunch Lighted Arrows, Tenpoint Sling, 6 Arrow Tech Quiver. We Do Not Use Gunbroker For Any Payments; Please call the store with your payment.
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Bulbob Sajah –
It’s easy to get suckered into buying one of these expensive bows by the high speed numbers. Just ask us, we were suckered.
Here’s a list of five (5) compelling reasons NOT to buy any Tenpoint crossbow, but particularly this RS470 or the newer 505 models, or any model with ACUslide:
1. Manufacturing defect #1 – Optic rail is not stiff and flops around
The scope that comes stock on most crossbows is a usually a $50 piece of junk, and that’s true on this as well. So you would want to upgrade to a decent scope. Problem is, the rail on these is not stiff enough to hold a regular scope, so if you mount one the rail can either snap completely, or just bounce around and give an ever-changing point-of-impact. In our case, we mounted a relatively lightweight standard hunting scope as far back on the rail as possible, and the front of the scope is still showing too much flex and movement because the rail is not stiff enough. Now you may consider this minor if the scope flexes around on the rail, but then when you go to mount a minor accessory to your scope, for example, now you have to re-zero because the point-of-impact has changed. And over time, a weak rail tends to bend, altering the slope, and so your POI continues to shift. Considering mounting a larger scope? Impossible, those cannot be mounted at all because the rail is too short and weak. If you contact Tenpoint and ask “Can I mount large scope X to the bow” they will tell you it won’t work, it’s too big, but there is no indication on their product page that the product has this weakness. In short, Tenpoint knows about this problem, but acts like it’s a nothingburger. No intention of fixing the problem.
2. Manufacturing defect #2 – Can’t mount regular rings or optic accessories that fit Picatinny or Weaver standards
As the owner of an RS470, I tried mounting 5 different standard scope rings from well-known companies like Burris and Vortex, and I also tried to mount an HHA Optimizer. Nothing I tried would clamp on the RS470 rail because the rail is too narrow. The response from Tenpoint completely changes the topic. “An incredibly small percentage of our consumers buy aftermarket optics.” For one, this claim is likely to be false. A sizable percentage of users must be replacing the optic. But that’s not the point. The point is the rail is faulty and non-standard and doesn’t fit things, and Tenpoint knows about it and acts like it’s a non-issue, and they have no intention of issuing a fix.
3. Manufacturing defect #3 – Dry Fire prevention mechanism doesn’t fully protect the bow from damage.
This didn’t happen to us personally, but there are people posting on forums saying that accidentally dry firing ACUslide bows usually results in damage that requires the bow to take a trip back to the manufacturer, and it’s an expensive repair of about $185. Rather than apologize for this incredibly major problem, the Tenpoint rep made some comment on the forums like: “At least dry firing doesn’t destroy the limbs!” as if we should all be thankful that “the Deciders” over at Tenpoint offered us any dry-fire protection at all.
4. Manufacturing Defect #4 – Problems with excessive serving wear
We’ve had problems with extreme serving wear after only about 70 shots with our RS470. Sent pictures to Tenpoint, their response is “Well, the string looks usable, but we can send you out a string.” Well, replacing the string every 70 shots is not really what we bargained for when we bought this $2500 bow.
5. Design Defect – Stock is too short and not adjustable.
We have 4 other crossbows, they all have adjustable stocks, and that’s important. It’s especially important when you have a short optic rail like this bow does, which forces you to place the optic close to your eye, which causes all kind of issues with the eye box and sight picture. So while the stock may look cool, it ranks low in usability which is a little more important than looking cool when you are trying to get your sight picture right.
In short, these bows have major flaws, and the manufacturer has absolutely no intention or plan to fix them.
Why isn’t this information more widely available?
Well, there’s a couple reasons.
With a manufacturer like Tenpoint, you find that people are afraid to criticize them for fear of retribution.
If you’ve bought one of their bows and you criticize them online, there’s a fear that they will refuse to provide warranty support.
And if you criticize them in a public bow hunting forum, you run the risk of making enemies with the powerful people on the forum and getting attacked by Tenpoint fan boys.
In short, getting the bad news out is a challenge, even when there is a glaring problem.
If it isn’t already obvious, the problem with Tenpoint is basically they are arrogant, they don’t admit problems, instead they deceive and try to minimize the problems exhibited by their products. And rather than fixing glaring product defects, they keep the same faulty parts and keep introducing faster bows every year.
Personally, we believe they are emboldened into behaving this way partly because they have fan boys on the bow hunting forums and they manage to keep these flaws under wraps so that you don’t discover the problems until after you are a sorry owner, like us.
Don’t be a victim like we were, take your business elsewhere until Tenpoint changes their attitude and gets serious about fixing their problems.
CMasters –
Nice crossbow.
Jessie –
This crossbow is well worth the money its an amazing product of good quality and the seller is awesome got my crossbow a lot sooner than I expected
Dwayne J. –
Similar experience as FitzJ. I guess for the $$$ spent you are basically buying a high end crossbow and bolts. The scope covers fell off twice while in deer stand while deer hunting this year. The scope is marginal for hunting. Prob OK for shooting range. Scope does not do well in dim light. You need to adjust it to arrow speed to use drop compensation system which for this bow the scope needs to be set at about a 5 power. Scope images are unclear and 5X is way too much power for most of my hunting. I set it on 1 power so image was clearer and hoped I didn’t have a long shot. Scope we be upgraded. The case will need to be replaced with a actual hard case. Good news is the crossbow itself is awesome. Quiet cranking, small, lightweight and FAST. No regrets.
Tyler –
Was sighting in the bow and the string literally blew up in my face. Was probably the 5th shot through the bow.
michelle Kramer –
the accuracy of the crossbow is incredible. my wife Loves the quietness of the crank she has a raven loves it but crank is noisy… I can not wait for the winter archary season.
D’Arcy Christensen –
Missing the case and broad heads. For 3 grand I expect everything to be there as advertised. Everything else is great. I haven’t fired it yet, but that will come soon.
Dino J Gutierrez –
Screws, no screws came with mine. I look at instructions, list an inventory of screws and nuts. May I get those sent to me, so I can assemble it?
Nickole Knight –
You must assemble bow but doesn’t come with Instructions. For the price one would think it would come assembled. But another brand !
JumpnJack –
It took a little figuring out to assemble the scope and arrow quiver as there were no instructions for my rs470. There was no sling only a I OWE YOU PAPER with instructions to fill out and mail to Tenpoint. I contacted customer service and they said it’s a supply chain issue and they would mail the sling when it was in stock. Other than that everything was good. I’ve owned Tenpoint crossbows for years and they are quality made crossbows and very accurate. The scope on this rs470 is nice. It has the yardage on the reticle and flip up lence covers. It’s 3 lbs lighter than the bow I have now. Very compact. The cocking and decocking is a game changer for me. No more shooting the crossbow to unload. I look forward to hunting with this crossbow.
Tim F. –
shots great easy to use
FritzJ –
I received the crossbow on 8 October 2020, and I have to be honest with you, things are not going well with this purchase. Please keep in mind these comments are coming from a novice crossbow user, and may or may not apply to someone, who is more experienced. I feel it says a lot about a purchase when you have to constantly consult YouTube or the Internet because either the instructions are not clear or don’t exist. Here is everything I have had to deal with since my crossbow arrived yesterday:
1. There are no instructions for installing all of the foam pads. I had to consult YouTube. It would have been really easy to print them on the back of the hard case setup instructions.
2. There are two different sets of instructions for attaching a quiver, but neither of them is for the type of quiver that came with my crossbow. I was unable to find anything online with respect to my quiver. It was only through trial and error that I was able to figure it out, or at least I think I figured it out.
3. There was no allen wrench for the quiver. There are five different allen wrenches in the kit, and I could not use a single one of them to mount my quiver. As luck would have it, it appears to be the only size of allen wrench I don’t own.
4. No instructions for operating and maintain the scope. There is one page of instructions telling you how to mount, level, and focus the scope, but does not explain what the FPS markings on the rear bell mean, how to adjust the FPS, what FPS you should or should not use with this crossbow, some of the issues or problems that might occur if the FPS is changed, what kind of battery it takes, where to install the battery, etc. I was able to get some answers on YouTube and during a call to customer service. I find it interesting the FPS on the scope only goes up to 450 FPS but this crossbow is rated to shoot 470 FPS.
5. The rear scope cap lens fell out. I assume this occurred during shipment. I put it back in, but it fell out again. I stuck it back in one more time, and it seems to be staying inside the cap, but I am not sure for how long. I am considering using super glue if it falls out again.
6. No instructions or recommendations for how to make sure your crossbow is level if you don’t have a vice.
7. The instructions for how to lubricate the crossbow could have a little more detail and possibly some pictures. I had to get the answer on YouTube. It would have been nice if the instructions had at least a couple of pictures indicating what the instructions were saying, and information as to how often to lubricate, and whether or not it needs to be lubricated prior to firing it for the first time. Additionally, if someone is going to spend $3k on this crossbow why don’t you give them a small bottle of lubricant instead of a really small sample, that can’t be resealed once opened. It wouldn’t have to be a full-sized bottle, but at least a small tube you can seal back up after you open it.
8. I did not see anything on the half page warrantee document saying I needed to register my crossbow with TenPoint or it would not be covered. I found that out during my telephone call to address some of these issues, and only then because I thought to ask. The representative did not once ask me if I wanted to register my crossbow.
9. No instructions on how to attach the sling. I realize that seems minor, but surprisingly it took about 20 minutes to figures out how to open up the metal clasp on the sling so it could be attached to the crossbow. I think a couple of sentences in the manual would help customers.
10. The first arrow I shot at a target broke while pulling it out. I have never had this happen with a much older crossbow or even my compound bow. According to the manual it looks like am stuck using these specific carbon arrows that came with my kit or my warrantee will be voided. That was $15 out the window in about 5 minutes. Additionally, it would have been nice to know using the bullet field points that came in the kit should probably not be used for target practice, but rather you should use some kind of blunt tips. It would also have been nice to know what kind of targets are recommended to use or should not use for target practice.
11. When the scope’s vertical lines are in focus the target is not in focus, and vice versa.
12. No instructions on the easiest way to get the rubber seal back on the LED light when it comes off pulling it out of the nock so you can turn it off. I guess that is why they provided extra rubber seals in the package.
13. The first time I pressed the trigger box loc-latch lever the trigger box slid forward without having to touch it, and automatically locked into place. I was so shocked how easy it was I had to check and make sure it had grabbed the crossbow string. The second time pressed the trigger box loc-latch lever it would not release the trigger box even though it was not cocked. I was eventually able to get it released by using the crank handle. This time it did not slide forward automatically, so I had to crank it all the way forward.
14. The hand crank doesn’t always seem to stay in its storage place in the stock. I will probably have to attach a couple pieces of Velcro to help keep it in place and hopefully keep me from losing it.
15. The representative I spoke to on the phone was polite and worked really hard to help me, but I got the feeling they did not know anything about this crossbow. This is based on the number of times they said “I don’t know”, “Let me look that up”, and “Can I please put you on hold while I ask someone.” It is entirely possible this was their first day, and thus unfamiliar with this crossbow. However, I feel like all of my questions were answered to my satisfaction.
11 October 2020 Update: As luck would have it, the hand crank broke after approximately 12 times cocking the crossbow. I attached a photo of the crank so you can see it is no longer attached to the handle and the ball that locks it into place fell out.
17 October 2020 Update: I received some additional allen wrenches, but they are still not the right size for attaching the quiver. I ended up going to the local hardware store and buying the right size. I also to the crossbow out to the woods for hunting. The crossbow arrows kept falling out of the quiver at the lightest touch. I had the same issue with the arrows when the bullet points were on them, but it was not as bad as with the broadheads. I ended up sticking the quiver and arrows in my backpack. Additionally, I received a replacement hand crank since the one that came with the crossbow broke. The issue I am having now is not being able to get the trigger box to release the crossbow string using the trigger box release pin. I have watched their video multiple times and read the instructions, but for whatever reason it is not releasing the crossbow sting.
9 November 2020 Update: As of today, I increased my rating of this crossbow from a three to a four out of five. The increased rating is due primarily to the exceptional customer support from TenPoint. It is very unusual these days, in my opinion, to find business that is willing to honestly and quickly address a customer’s concern. All of the issues listed above were address by the company to my satisfaction. I received replacement lens caps, a replacement crank, and a replacement quiver gripper without any hassle. I appreciated the time and effort their representatives spent assisting me, and I am now a loyal customer.
M. Boddy –
I used the RS470 crossbow last deer season and absolutely loved it. Got stolen from my car so I had to replace it this season. I ordered the exact same crossbow package. When it arrived the hard case, included as part of the package, was not with the crossbow. Very disappointing! Several other reviewers have also noted the same problem. This was especially vexing because I was intending to fly to Illinois to deer hunt and had to postpone my scheduled vacation while resolving the issue. Ended up purchasing elsewhere.
Sunny –
I like the speed and accuracy of the bow but after dry firing it once the trigger box got damaged and would not release. i didnt mess with it because it voids the warranty. Turns out the warranty was voided anyway because, according to them, it was misused. I thought i was buying the best bow on the market with a good warranty but I’m sorry i spent this much money on it.
Mark B. –
ever since i bought my x bow new its been in and out of the tenpiont factory last month just got it back shot i bolt 2 bolt broke new string using tenpiont bolts right out of box just spent 300 dollars for that and tenpiont wont repair it without paying again ive owned xbows for over 25 years no problems till bought abig money tenpiont dont waste your money on there junk they dont stand behind there products havent yet never will .
Big G –
Fantastic bow package